Thursday 19 March 2015

Can you extract the value from this interlinked cryptic puzzle?



I'd like to tell a story,


This might be a good place to start


but there isn't really one here.



There's just a cryptic puzzle



  • 6 1 4a 7 4d 9, 3 2 5 8.


all mixed up in itself.


xnoywt 

oivwjh
rdfsbr
vsisne
hjqffe

There are several steps,


kruof
qumsh

but just one solution in the end.



werde
wkvmp
xjhij
hlc f

So good luck,


ytdxo 
twild
kszfe
lomyw

kwqom

as all I want to know is



  • Escorted by Grips

  • Italian sequencer Decay/Input

  • Not just a Cipher reversed

  • DNA scrambled Piano lever

  • On a slant



What value do we place on truth?





  • Small hint: The image is the best place to start, and it's not trying to trick you.

  • Slightly larger hint: You can't solve a crossword without clues, but if you look you'll find them in the end.

  • Today's hint, from Levieux's answer:

    enter image description here





  • Hopefully final hint: Cross+Roads=Danger



Answer



Edit based on Tim B's new hint:



The clues (including their answers) are:
1 Escorted by --> WITH
2 Grips --> HOLDS
3 Italian sequencer --> FIBONACCI
4a Decay --> ROT

4d Input --> READ
5 Not just a --> THE
6 Cipher reversed --> DECODE
7 DNA scrambled --> AND
8 Piano lever --> KEY
9 On a slant --> DIAGONALLY



The filled out puzzle then looks like:



Filled out puzzle




And the message reads (based on the clue 6 1 4a 7 4d 9, 3 2 5 8):



Decode with rot and read diagonally, Fibonacci holds the key



The diagonals of the grids are:



 Xnoywt 
oIvwjh
rdFsbr

vsiSne
hjqfFe

and



 Kruof
qUmsh

and



 Werde
wKvmp

xjHij
hlc f

and



 Ytdxo
tWild
ksZfe
lomYw
kwqoM

So we have to:




Decode these diagonal parts (xifsf, ku, wkh, ywzym) with ROT(X), X being the corresponding numbers that are found in the grid (as found by Tim earlier on).



And it leads to:



xifsf (ROT 1) --> where
ku (ROT 2) --> is
wkh (ROT 3) --> the
ywzym (ROT 5) --> truth
So the solution is: Where is the truth




New update:



The latest hint suggests to use alphametics to solve the puzzle. Since we're given the clue 3+4+5=6, we probably have to sum, the words found in the corresponding grids.



This means:



WHERE+IS+THE=TRUTH, which has the following solution: 69404 + 81 + 794 = 70279. So the value we place on truth is 70279.



Previous update: (going in the wrong direction)




Apparently this is not yet the solution to the puzzle, nor is the number 5 or 6 (the rotation used for the last (truth-)grid/the number found written in the last grid).
I'm not sure whether the hint 3+4+5=6 still needs to be used at this point..
Another way to go could be to start looking for the truth, since that's what the previous part actually suggests. Obviously the word truth was found in the fourth and last grid, which also has the word "six" in it, but we already discarded that possibility. Maybe we should go by the saying "the truth lies somewhere in the middle", leading us to the centre part of the grids/crossword, but that's just guessing and it has no logical basis.
The latest hint seems to suggest looking at the crossings of the crossword puzzle, which would be the letters H R T D O E A D I Y, but that doesn't really help either. Maybe we should focus just on the only real crossroads, the one where 3d and 6a cross around the letter O, but I have no idea what to do with that..



N.B., something that does add up nicely:



F(6)+F(7)+F(8) = 8 + 13 + 21 = 42 :P




Previous answer:


I haven't made any real progress on this one, but I'll give you my two cents. Maybe someone else can make sense of it.


First of all:



The question is about "extracting the value" from the puzzle, implying that we're searching for a number here.
The clue 3+4+5=6 seems to be supporting that view. I've tried plugging in values into the grid to match this equation, but there's no solution, so that's not the way to go.
seventeen + two + one = twenty is the closest I could get, but seventeen and twenty don't line up correctly.
Since OP suggests to start with the image, I also tried changing the link (https://i.stack.imgur.com/K6ckx.png) to https://i.stack.imgur.com/K345ckx.png, but no luck there.



Then there's the numbers Tim found in the grids:




Maybe we should add those grids somehow, but I've tried this in lots of different ways and it doesn't work either. OP also changed one of the grids at some point to remove a red herring, so most likely the letters in these grids don't bear any further significance, other than the numbers inside of it.



About the five clues:



Are they even the clues??
They are capitalized weirdly, is EG IDI NC DNAP O perhaps a message? It's an anagram of ENCODING PAIN, but now I'm probably just seeing stuff that isn't really there...
Could the Italian sequencer be Fibonacci?
Second hint tells us that the clues to the puzzle can be found "in the end". So maybe in final letters of any of the words?




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