Sunday, 20 November 2016

energy - Tubelights+power lines pictures?


I've come across many pictures like these, sometimes in chain emails reporting the dangers of power lines.


Another claim is that they run on "wasted" energy.



The explanations given are that the wires set up a field, and thus a potential difference. This p.d. gives current in the wires.


Now, I can't help but feeling skeptical. I can't see how the tubes would stay lit for the time it takes to set up the whole grid. Here's my logic:


If current flows through the tubelight, there will be a net charge distribution on the caps. At one point, the charge distribution will be such that it creates its own potential, halting the flow of light. This works even if one end is grounded. An easier way to analyse this is a capacitor (GP: G for ground, P for power lines), with a bulb inside it. Each terminal of the bulb is connected to a plate (A and B). There's an optional grounding wire W. In this situation, it's obvious that eventually the plates AB will get enough charge (same charge density as PG incidentally) to create zero p.d. Current should be there for a brief moment in time.


diagram


I understand that this is a DC situation, but for power lines, I think that something similar should happen. Or maybe not. I'm clear that the potential difference across the live and neutral switches polarities, but I'm not sure how the potential field is outside the wire. In fact, I feel that there shouldn't be a V/E field, only a magnetic field.


If it's true that the tubelights stay lit, then how is the energy "wasted energy"? I feel that even if the tubelight can stay lit, the energy is being drawn from the power lines. This looks just like how one can naively say that there is energy wasted in an open socket; when in reality plugging something in draws more energy from the system (and can dim other appliances).


Update: So my questions are thus:



  1. I'd like a clearer explanation of the potential and E field outside an AC power line.

  2. Is the energy "wasted energy"?




Answer



The electric field of a transmission line decreases with the distance from the line, so there is a potential difference in the radial direction. This potential difference can cause the glow in fluorescent tubes. I believe such tubes can glow even if it is a DC transmission line, as the charge can drift in the air. You may wish to consider a comparison with a corona discharge, which often takes place near transmission lines (both DC and AC), even if there are no fluorescent tubes around, because the electric field strength can be so high near the conductor that causes air breakdown. Corona discharge causes extra power losses, so do glowing fluorescent tubes. While there are losses even in open AC circuits due to reactive loads, extra load leads to extra losses. So those fluorescent bulbs do cause extra losses, they don't use just "wasted energy". Furthermore, I am not sure it is safe to fool around transmission lines.


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