Wednesday, 7 June 2017

homework and exercises - Find the minimum force that has to be applied to the block m1 so that the other block just begins to slide


This is a problem from the book 'Problems in General Physics' by I E Irodov. Two blocks of masses m1 and m2 are placed on a rough horizontal surface, connected by a light spring.



Find the minimum constant force that has to be applied on the block with mass m1 so that the other block just begins to slide.


Consider the limiting case:


Suppose the spring has compression x by that time. Block m2 is just about to move.


We can write, kx=μm2g


And, by the work energy theorem


Fx0.5kx2μm1gxμm2gx=0.5m1v2

For the system of m1, m2 and the spring.


This is where I am stuck. According to the answer, the force required is minimum when v=0.


Why is the block m1 at rest in the limiting case? I cannot find any suitable justification for this, neither an intuitive explanation. Also, is something wrong with my Work Energy theorem expression?



Answer



For second block μm2g=kx

For first block F.x12kx2μm1gx=12m1v2
Set v=0 F=12kx+μm1g=μg(m1+m22)






Why is the block m1 at rest in the limiting case? I cannot find any suitable justification for this, neither an intuitive explanation.



No, it is not at rest, it will have moved some distance x, which I don't know how you unknowingly accounted in the W-E Theorem even after you said it is at rest.


Firstly, block one will start to move from rest when applied force becomes greater than the limiting friction on block 1, parallely the force of spring increases, when both the frictional force on block 2 and the spring force on block 2 becomes equal the block 2 starts moving.


The maximum possible extension of the spring will occur when the massm1 can no longer move and starts to move back due to the action of the spring. At this point v=0



Also, is something wrong with my Work Energy theorem expression?




Yes you shouldn't account frictional work for block 2 because it has not started moving, it is just going to move, it hasn't covered any distance so no frictional work has been done on it.


Even if you wrote W-E Theorem for block 2 [suppose after it has started to move], then you are uncertain that block 1 and 2 covered the same distance x.Even if you wanted to find the distances covered individually, consider their motion with respect to the centre of mass of the system [assume spring to be massless.]


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