There is something I'm missing. I am at page 22-23 of Goldstein Classical Mechanics 3rd ed. Lorentz force can be derived from the Lagrangian
L=T−U
U=qϕ−qA⋅v
where ϕ(t,x,y,z) is a scalar potential and A(t,x,y,z) is a vector potential.
I'm trying to solve this with Lagrange equations for the x coordinate, and for the term
ddt(∂L∂˙x)
I'll show you how I'm trying to compute this with detail:
ddt(∂L∂˙x)=m¨x−qddt(∂∂˙xϕ)+qddt(∂A∂˙x⋅v+∂v∂˙x⋅A)
Now, here's my big problem, I'll may have some trouble understanding the condition in which I can interchange the differentiation with respect to ˙x and t, i.e for example,
qddt(∂∂˙xϕ)=q∂∂˙x(ddtϕ)
This is done some pages before when Goldstein is deriving the lagrange equations, and I solved a problem in this chapter usig this. So now I have:
q∂∂˙x(∂∂xϕdxdt+∂∂yϕdydt+∂∂zϕdzdt+∂∂tϕ)
Now I have looked now for many hours for many ways in which this derivation is made and the expression above vanishes, but I don't understand why, is it because I'm assuming x,y,z in the scalar potential are functions of time themselves? If not I can see why it would vanish. Also, this vanishes because I can't exchange the order of differentiation?
I totally see what you mean, I was applying it wrong, after you answered me I encountered that final term ∂ϕ∂qi, I had to substract it because it was actually:
qddt(∂∂˙xϕ)=q[∂∂˙x(ddtϕ)−∂f∂qi]
Thanks a lot you're awesome!
Answer
Goldstein states
Both E(t,x,y,z) and B(t,x,y,z) are continuous functions of time and position derivable from a scalar potential ϕ(t,x,y,z) and a vector potential A(t,x,y,z)
i.e., these terms are not dependent on v.
Thus, ∂ϕ∂˙x=∂A∂˙x=0
With regards to interchanging derivatives, with an ordinary derivative you can write it as dfdt=p∑n=1∂f∂qn˙qn+∂f∂t
For partial derivatives, it should be straight-forward that ∂2f∂x∂y=∂2f∂y∂x
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