Thursday, 27 August 2015

homework and exercises - Poisson brackets and angular momentum


I'm trying to find $[M_i, M_j]$ Poisson brackets.


$$\{M_i, M_j\}=\sum_l \left(\frac{\partial M_i}{\partial q_l}\frac{\partial M_j}{\partial p_l}-\frac{\partial M_i}{\partial p_l}\frac{\partial M_j}{\partial q_l}\right)$$


I know that:


$$M_i=\epsilon _{ijk} q_j p_k$$


$$M_j=\epsilon _{jnm} q_n p_m$$


and so:


$$[M_i, M_j]=\sum_l \left(\frac{\partial \epsilon _{ijk} q_j p_k}{\partial q_l}\frac{\partial \epsilon _{jnm} q_n p_m}{\partial p_l}-\frac{\partial \epsilon _{ijk} q_j p_k}{\partial p_l}\frac{\partial \epsilon _{jnm} q_n p_m}{\partial q_l}\right)$$



$$= \sum_l \epsilon _{ijk} p_k \delta_{jl} \cdot \epsilon_{jnm} q_n \delta_{ml}- \sum_l \epsilon_{ijk}q_j \delta_{kl} \cdot \epsilon_{jnm} p_m \delta_{nl}$$


Then I have thought that values that nullify deltas don't add any informations in the summations. And so, $m=l, j=l$ but so I obtain $m=j$. But if $m=l$, the second Levi-Civita symbol in the first summation is zero... And if I go on, I obtain $\{M_i, M_j\}=-p_iq_j$ instead of $\{M_i, M_j\}=q_ip_j-p_iq_j$


Where am I wrong? Could you give me some hints to continue?



Answer



You are confusing in the index, such calculations must be carried out very carefully. I would start with your difention. $$M_i=\epsilon _{ijk} q_j p_k$$


$$M_p=\epsilon _{pnm} q_n p_m$$ $$\{M_i, M_p\}=\sum_l \left(\frac{\partial M_i}{\partial q_l}\frac{\partial M_p}{\partial p_l}-\frac{\partial M_i}{\partial p_l}\frac{\partial M_p}{\partial q_l}\right)$$


First term


$=\epsilon _{ijk}p_k\delta_{jl}\epsilon _{pnm}q_n\delta_{ml}=\epsilon _{ilk}p_k\epsilon _{pnl}q_n=(-1)\epsilon _{lik}p_k(-1)^2\epsilon _{lpn}q_n=-\epsilon _{lik}p_k\epsilon _{lpn}q_n=-\left(\delta_{ip}\delta_{kn}-\delta_{in}\delta_{kp}\right)p_kq_n$


Here I used the antisymmetry of $\epsilon _{lik}$ and equation $\epsilon_{ijk}\epsilon_{imn} = \delta_{jm}\delta_{kn} - \delta_{jn}\delta_{km}$


Second term



Absolutely the same calculations. $=\epsilon _{ijk}q_j\delta_{kl}\epsilon _{pnm}p_m\delta_{nl}=\epsilon _{ijl}q_j\epsilon _{plm}p_m=\epsilon _{plm}p_m\epsilon _{ijl}q_j=-\epsilon _{lpm}p_m\epsilon _{lij}q_j=-\left(\delta_{pi}\delta_{mj}-\delta_{pj}\delta_{mi}\right)p_mq_j=$


Make the change $m=k,j=n$. Then


$=-\left(\delta_{pi}\delta_{kn}-\delta_{pn}\delta_{ki}\right)p_kq_n$


All together


$\{M_i, M_p\}=-\left(\delta_{ip}\delta_{kn}-\delta_{in}\delta_{kp}\right)p_kq_n+\left(\delta_{pi}\delta_{kn}-\delta_{pn}\delta_{ki}\right)p_kq_n=\delta_{in}\delta_{kp}p_kq_n-\delta_{pn}\delta_{ki}p_kq_n=p_pq_i-p_iq_p=q_ip_p-p_iq_p$


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