Saturday, 30 January 2016

homework and exercises - Does conservation of angular momentum break conservation of momentum?


Say we have a spinning ring of mass M, rotating at W0, at a radius r from some pivot point. This ring has massless spokes extending out to a length of 2r.


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From this, we can calculate the initial angular momentum:


L0=IW0


I0=Mr2



L0=Mr2W0


While it's spinning, we drop on top of the massless spokes another ring of twice the radius, 2r, but the same mass, M. Friction between the spokes and the ring makes sure the two rings spin together.


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Conservation of angular momentum should allow us to find the final angular velocity of the two rings together:


L0=Lf


IfWf=I0W0


If=Mr2+M(2r)2=5Mr2


5Mr2Wf=Mr2W0


Wf=W05


However, I've always learned that conservation of angular momentum doesn't break conservation of momentum. That is, conservation of momentum should still hold.



However, if I try to solve this same problem using only conservation of linear momentum, I get a different result. Let P stand for momentum, Vinner stand for the final linear velocity of little segments of the inner disk, and Vouter stand for the final linear velocity of little segments of the outer disk:


P0=MV=MrW0


P0=Pf


MV0=MVinner+MVouter


MrW0=MVinner+MVouter


MVinner=MrWf


MVouter=M(2r)Wf


MrW0=MrWf+M(2r)Wf


MrW0=3MrWf


Wf=W03



As you can see, conservation of linear momentum gives me a different result...what am I doing wrong?



Answer



Momentum is a vector quantity. The total momentum of a uniform spinning disc is zero, so the momentum begins at zero and ends at zero.


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