Thursday, 7 September 2017

differential geometry - Do vecr and dvecr have the same direction?


One question is bugging me for a long time but I couldn't make out anything nor could my friends. Here it goes:


We know, r is regarded as the position vector. So we can say, rr=r2


Differentiating both sides with respect to time t, we get rdrdt+drdtr=2rdrdt

or,2rdrdt=2rdrdt
or,rdrdt=rdrdt
or,r dr=r dr
or,r drcosθ=r dr
where θ is angle between r and dr


or,cosθ=1

or,θ=0


Question no.1:So can I conclude that r and dr have the same direction? The above calculation suggests so but the diagram below does not. Why? enter image description here



Also if r and dr have the same direction, then r×drdt=0

Now,r=rˆr
whereˆr=ˆicosθ+ˆjsinθ
So,drdt=drdtˆr+rˆθdθdt
andr×drdt=r2dθdt(ˆr׈θ)0 (in general)


Why does this contradiction arise?



Answer



Despite what some of the other answers are mentioning, the following equation you have is correct rdr=rdr

You can check this by noting r=xˆi+yˆj+zˆkdr=dxˆi+dyˆj+dzˆk
Then rdr=xdx+ydy+zdz
Further note r=x2+y2+z2dr=1r(xdx+ydy+zdz)
implying that it is true that rdr=rdr.


Where you go wrong is the next step. You say rdr=rdrcosθ

In doing this you are assuming |dr|=dr
Is this really true? Let us check. We have already computed dr. We have |dr|=|dxˆi+dyˆj+dzˆk|=dx2+dy2+dz2
This is clearly not equal to dr, thereby making any conclusions based on this incorrect.


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